- Listening to: Cool Kids - Screeching Weasel
- Reading: Cwciki
- Drinking: Ice water
The fic was basically about Vegeta and Bulma, and one day Bulma found a scar on Vegeta's back that he REALLY didn't want to talk about. After pestering him, Vegeta finally confesses that he was raped by Frieza, and the scar was from a metal whip, telling her this retarded, angst-tastic tale that made me roll my eyes rather than feel sympathy, because it was just so extreme.
"It's rantin' time." I thought.
So, you know the DBZ fandom, right? they're usually divided into two groups: The testosterone-ey boys screaming at each-other about who's the strongest in terms of accurate power level numbers, and yaoi obsessed LIK SO KAWAII fangirls who ship VegetaXGoku. In between there is a colorful assortment, such as nostalgia fans, fans who really like particular characters, (.....) and fans who simply like the story, but we're not talking about them, are we? Question: Who's the most popular character? The answer would be FUCKING VEGETA. Next question: who is considered the most attractive character? The answer would also be FUCKING VEGETA.
Those two facts, combined with the yaoi obsessed OMG SO KAWAII =^o^= fangirls I mentioned early, create a final, hazardous type of fan: The rabid Vegeta fangirl. These creatures are, by far, the most obnoxious type of DBZ fan, with their stupid Vegeta licky icons and Vegeta fics so wangsty you wouldn't be surprised if Linkin Park started playing softly in the background.
Let me state a disclaimer before you start throwing tomatoes and shit at me: I don't hate Vegeta, or fans who like Vegeta. Granted, I'm not obsessed with him like I am with Frieza, but I still like Vegeta, even if I liked him best in his debut in the Saiyan saga. Also, I'm not saying ALL Vegeta fangirls are bad. I've met a lot of very cool ( and sane) Vegeta fangirls before, trust me.
So, anyways, were do I begin? How about with the Wangsty past cliche? Why is it they're always making Frieza abuse Vegeta? Frieza didn't abuse him, in fact, Frieza favored him. If anything, ZARBON was more abused, judging by how Frieza treated him in both the manga and anime. Vegeta was a spoiled prince, and judging by filler flashbacks, Frieza and Vegeta seemed to have a decent, respectful relationship, ( not that kind....) well, FRIEZA did, anyways, considering that Vegeta hated his guts.
Sure, he might of beaten him if he failed in a mission, but Frieza probably did that to EVERYONE. Vegeta wasn't "SPEASHAL" or a personal plaything for Frieza; he was just another working soldier.
Frieza also didn't molest kid Vegeta or rape him. All of those things are created for pitiful, cheap sympathy for Vegeta. Yes, I know you know he didn't do anything nasty to Vegeta in the actual series, what I'm saying, is that it's Out Of Character. Frieza never hinted ANYTHING about ANY form of abuse. Frieza may be sadistic monster, but he isn't a pedophile; Frieza's far too classy to consider raping kids, you stupid fucks.
Secondly, Vegeta didn't rebel against Frieza because he was trying to be heroic. He rebelled against Frieza because he wanted immortality and power HIMSELF. He was just as evil as Frieza was. The reason why he helped the Z-fighters fight Frieza was because Frieza was a threat to his rule; the second Frieza was dead, Vegeta was going to double-cross them, kill them, take the Dragonballs for himself and get the fuck outta there. He wasn't trying to "restore his honor" or "fight for the pride of his race" or anything noble or valiant like that. He just wanted to take Frieza's place as ruler of the universe. He eventually switched sides because he fell in love with Bulma. Raising a family, and being with Bulma eventually mellowed him out a bit.
And sorry, fangirls, but Vegeta hasn't, nor wouldn't, angst. His sense of pride keeps all of his emotions bottled up, and only shows his arrogance and stubborness. Vegeta's not going to sit in a rock in the middle of a desert and BAWWWWWWW about how Frieza touched his no-no spot, or about all the guards making fun of him CUZ HES A MONKEY WAAAH!, ( Seriously, Vegeta responded to insults with insults of his own) or because MY HOME ASPLODED TO SPACE ASH WAAAH!, or because his daddy is dead. You dumb girls need to stop derailing him so he's angst bait; a true warrior like Vegeta doesn't bitch about his past all the time, and instead puts it behind him. Never once have we heard him constantly complain about his pasts, and he only opened up about it once in the first place to Goku on Namek for reason's why he is the way he is.
Finally, these fans are so goddamn defensive and close-minded. You simply CANNOT reason with them about anything. They refuse to accept the fact that Vegeta wasn't a good father at first with baby Trunks. They believe he was ALWAYS a mushy dad-mom, rather than eventually learning how to become a better parent, and becoming less selfish, especially with the birth of Bra. They also won't believe anything other than "Frieza was mean to him" concerning his pasts, it's pathetic. And if you try to reason with them about his character evolution, they'll snap at you about how you're "insulting us."
Ok, I think I'm done here. Hopefully these people learn that angsty fanfics is poor writing , and, more importantly, cliched.
Plus, I'm a fangirl and I've read many stories with Vegeta as a terrible father at first, you cannot hear about/meet a couple of fangirls and immediately assume all of us are like that! Also, I HATE THE STORIES OF HIM BEING AN OOC BABY BAWLING HIS EYES OUT!! I have read stories where he wasn't hurt by Frieza but I prefer it when he was because I like that character, I keeps my mind from overloading because of my "closed-mindedness"
You've got no right...so, that was my rant in response to yours.
I managed to not laugh until then. My god, even your rants are awesome!
lol I don't know how I found your post but it's so spot on. I discovered fanfiction years after DBZ stopped airing on my country and I was shocked the first time I read about that theory of Freeza raping Vegeta. I thought the author was some kind of sicko trying to get attention but later found out that MOST fanfiction writers (fangirls) think that this is a stated fact on the anime. I went back, re-read the manga, watched again the Namek saga and still couldn't find anything that supported that claim. I'm not even talking about detailed description because it's obviosluy a kid show, but I was looking for some kind of hint or something that implied sexual abuse and couldn't find anything.
It doesn't bother when it's an Alternate Universe (though I try to stay the heck away from those kind of stories) but it's laughable when people claim that THIS is part of the story created by Akira Toriyama. It's so ridiculous, sometimes I have to refrain myself from making any comments. As you stated very eloquently, people get very defensive when you try to explain to them why this is very unlikely and honestly a ridiculous idea.
In reallity is nothing more than a cheap device plot to make his character likeable on fanfiction Anyone who aspires to become a good writer should stay away from this.
Thank you for this post, I agree with all your points and I'm a Vegeta fangirl, but I'm aware that I'm in the minority when it comes to this. I'm so grateful that I discovered fanfiction long after I watched Dragon Ball Z or otherwise it would've ruined me too : )
He has my sympathy for other reasons. I believe AT did a good job on the development of his character, so we might not be in the same tune there but I concur with your reasoning as to why the rape thing is a lazy head cannon. It's completely OOC even for Freiza and also I doubt any of the people writing this kind of fanfics know anything about child abuse. Honestly, it's just over the top angst that goes from laughable to disturbing. And what bothers me the most is that it's such a popular head canon that nobody bothers to put a warning on the summary. I always have to find that crap in the middle of an otherwise decent fanfic
Aaaand I'll stop here before I start a rant of my own on the subject . Great piece though.
And the rape fics I definitely can't handle. I like to think that Frieza is above such things, even if he is cruel and ruthless. He would probably view rape as something only mindless animals would do.
but, did you had a discussion with one MLP fan? (i was trolling dat kidz) GOD!! like 1000 bronies insulted me, and i was talking with only 1. xD of course i ignored the other 999, while the other one was breaking one of the anti trolls ruuurus. "neves reply/insult a troll, that means he succesfully trolled you" lol.
btw, frieza raped vegeta?, vegeta licky icons?! O_O
oh belzeb why.
I like how you divided the groups of fans into sections. I like to do that in my head too. And I also admire your abilities to take your evidence and evaluate them, then use them as ways to prove your point. You honestly would make a great lawyer!
Also I really hope me believing that Frieza abused Vegeta doesn't mean Im disrespecting him cause thats the last thing I wanna do cause I freaking LOVE Frieza and I would never soil his good name! XD
Yeah, it's your choice if you want to believe that theory, after all, I can understand why people do. It seemed like it happened.
Typed liek dis is ur phone!1!
De-railed Vegeta into an emofuck
Absolutely LOATHED Frieza for no reason other than the fact that he isn't Vegeta
Liking Vegeta or theorizing that he was raped or abused isn't enough to make me hate you. It's those two things, combined with the examples above and general obnoxiousness in general that I fucking hate.